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The Bob
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« on: January 22, 2011, 09:45:01 AM »


I am in the process of purchasing a new tow vehicle for our 2010 Carriage Cameo 35SB3.  I took it to a public scale and it weighed in @ about 13,500 lbs, laden.  The tongue weight is about 2750.  The vehicle I am considering is a 2011 Dodge 3500 with the Lariat package.  6.7 L turbo-diesel, 4WD, 6-speed automatic transmission, single rear wheels, 8' bed, crew cab (4 doors) and a 3:73 rear end.  Trailer Life's 2011 Towing Guide indicates that the tow limit for this vehicle is 13,800 lbs.  If I went to a 4:10 rear end, the tow limit would be 16,800 lbs.  I know that the 4:10 rear end would be more than adequate, but it would also mean a loss of about 2 MPG.  I pull the 5th wheel behind the truck about 65% of the the time.

Any thoughts or suggestions before I drop a huge chunk of change on this vehicle?  Thanks

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Diesel Hugh
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2011, 02:05:08 PM »

I had a 2003 35SB3 towed by a 2007.5 Chev. 3/4 ton Duramax.  I added air bags and weighed it and was within truck weights.  Now I have a 2010 F35SB3 and truck tows it great.  I haven't taken it to the scales but I'm satisfied with the way it tows.
Hugh
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2011, 03:50:18 PM »

Bob,
I would definitely go with the 4.10 gears. Yes you might loose up to 2 MPG while running empty but I think you will find that your mileage while towing may actually be better with the 4.10s than the 3.73s. You don't have to have your foot so heavy on the throttle with the 4.10s so your engine is not laboring as hard when towing. The extra weight capacity is also a nice bonus. One thing you didn't ask about but I'm going to throw my 2 cents worth in on this is the difference between the SRW and the dully. Yes you can tow the unit you are considering with the SRW but in MHO the safety and stability of the dully is worth the extra cost and the inconveniences that come with the dully. Remember though that the total width of the dully is no more than the width of you trailer so anywhere your trailer will go your truck will also go.
Good luck and have fun with your new truck and trailer.
Eldon
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2011, 05:09:35 PM »

We purchased a 2010 Dodge 3500 DWR  crew cab, 6.7 L turbo diesel back in October and we pull a Carri-Lite 36 Max1 with no problem. Half the time I have to look in the mirror to make sure its still there.  We have the 3.73 ratio and so far haven’t seen a need for the 4.10 but that might change when we head out west. It would cost me about 1500.00 to have it changed out but we will wait untill we see the need.  Here in Texas even in the hill country it pulls and stops like a dream. The exhaust brake is a must have and works great. I wouldn’t want to travel without it. The only problem we had was with the integrated brake controller. It will not work properly with electric over hydraulic disc brakes. We used it on the first trip and wound up buying a max brake controller. What a difference. The Max brake controller works so much better and really gave me the confidence to know that I can stop that thing on a dime, ok well a quarter, in a dangerous situation.  We love our Dodge and it truly is a work horse and it sure does look good. Good luck with your purchase.  Chip
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 09:31:59 PM »

I have a 2006 Chevy Duramax 3:73 gears(the only way they came in 2006) and a 2010 35sb3. We did a coast to coast last June-August and had no problems towing out west. I put over 10 K on the truck during the trip.  My truck now has 71k miles and I plan on keeping it another couple years. I am not sure what I am going to get the next time. I have had two Chevy trucks since RV ing with a fiver and never had any problems. Before Rving I had both Ford and GM trucks. I had a couple of Chrysler cars and had a bad service manager and problems with the last one, so I not wanted one after that. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2011, 07:18:14 AM »

Take a look at the 2011, Ford, Dually, Long Bed and you will see that it can tow any 5th Wheel Carriage makes.  Some may not like Ford for some reason and they will not look to see what the truck can do.  I had a 2003, 1 ton dually Dodge, however it did not have the GCWR I needed.  I checked the 2010, 1 ton dually Dodge it did not have the weight rating that I needed/wanted.

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2011, 09:48:27 PM »

Dodge (Ram?) have announced mid year 2011.5 changes which will increase the torque to 800 ft/lbs.  Trailer weight will increase to 22,700, with combined gross weight ratings up to 30K.

Here's the link:

<http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2011/02/2011-chicago-auto-show-ram-increasing-heavy-duty-diesel-power-ratings.html>

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2011, 07:50:21 AM »

Ford had these ratings a year ago when I was in the market for a new truck.  I have owned Dodge trucks for more than ten years and wanted another one; however they (Dodge) did not have the tow ratings that I wanted at the time.Nate
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Donr827
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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2011, 11:34:56 AM »

Take a look at the 2011, Ford, Dually, Long Bed and you will see that it can tow any 5th Wheel Carriage makes.  Some may not like Ford for some reason and they will not look to see what the truck can do.  I had a 2003, 1 ton dually Dodge, however it did not have the GCWR I needed.  I checked the 2010, 1 ton dually Dodge it did not have the weight rating that I needed/wanted.

Nate

Hi Nate, I am looking at a new 2011 Ford F350.  What kind of MPG are you getting while towing? Thanks
Don
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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2011, 04:42:13 PM »

Hi Don,

The total weight (Truck, Two People, Aux. 65 Gal Fuel Tank & 5th Wheel) has been 25K.  We have been 1,400 Miles (short break in trips with this unit), towing mileage has been 11 to 11.5 MPG average.  The truck has 8K miles on it at this time.  These figures were hand calculated.

Nate
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RAN
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2011, 08:17:04 PM »

With the 3.73 couldn't you just manually drop a gear on the tranny and accomplish the same thing as the 4.10?
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