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only1Boston
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« on: April 29, 2010, 08:57:13 PM » |
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I've had some rather annoying bouncing problems with my new 35SB3. I've tried air bags at various psi's, various amounts of water on board to adjust pin weight, and I'm coming up with nothin'. These Calif highways are bouncing me all over the road.  As has been suggested elsewhere, I'm going to replace the shocks on the back of the Duramax (44k miles, maybe time anyway), and add shocks to the trailer. The problem is determining the location of the new upper shock mount. I can weld it in, that's no problem, I just need to know where to place it. "RVeCafe" has id'ed the shock to use, a Monroe 555025, and I can fab the upper mount. Any thoughts out there, or is there a diagram somewhere that I'm missing?  |
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NHIrish
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« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2010, 06:45:57 AM » |
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I would wait and see what the shock replacement on your truck does. I just replaced the shocks on my F350 at 38k and they were REALLY worn...nothing left. There is a dramatic difference. I used to have trouble on SC highways ...needing to slow to 40ish....now you would think they had repaved the roads. I think you may be in for a big surprise. Our new 32FWS pulls like a dream.
PS...I replaced my factory Ranchero shocks with Bilsteins. They are a nice product.
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only1Boston
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« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2010, 09:09:23 AM » |
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Thanks for the input, that's the best place to start. Did you replace the front shocks as well?
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Leslie
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« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2010, 05:41:57 PM » |
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What kind of hitch do you have in the truck? I have a airsafe 25k hitch with the binkley holland head. I have had it since sept 2006 when I bought my Carriage. You don't know the trailer is behind you. On the bad roads you won't get jerked around near as bad as you do with a non air hitch.Like my buddy said when I asked him about a hitch since I had a cabover for 23 years. While he had a 5th wheel. He said
" I am not telling you it is worth the money , but I like the ride"
Leslie
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only1Boston
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« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2010, 07:27:26 PM » |
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I have a Husky 16k UBM. The hitch isn't the greatest, probably, but it has towed a number of fiver's over the years without any problem until I just bought the Cameo (last month), so I believe the problem lies in the combination of wheelbase of truck/trailer and possibly different pin weight. The Cameo has a Mor-Ryde hitch and RE suspension, which is a proven combo. It may be that the Mor-Ryde hitch is introducing too much movement into the system, and the RE suspension is amplifying the movement.
Having said all that, I'm going to replace the truck shock with Bilsteins (unless someone can demonstrate a good alternative), and add shocks to the Cameo.
Original question still stands: Anyone have any info on the measurements for the top shock mount, so that I can weld it in at least an approximation of the correct location? The bottom mount is already in place.
Thanks
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NHIrish
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2010, 06:55:36 AM » |
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Thanks for the input, that's the best place to start. Did you replace the front shocks as well?
Yes, I did. I also use the truck to plow my driveway in winters....but I would think you should replace all 4. |
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Leslie
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2010, 11:24:36 AM » |
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Bite the bullet one time and spend the money on a good air hitch and you will notice the difference. Like I said in my earlier post above. My 2006 Carriage has the RE suspension and just the regular pin box. Nothing moves in the trailer after all day of traveling. This includes the wifes nick nacks on the wooden end table at the back of the trailer between the two easy chairs. And the back of the trailer rides the roughest. Yes, if you slam on the brakes things will move. But under normal driving everything rides smooth. I have been very happy with my 25k air safe hitch. Just bite the bullet one time and be a happy camper. I did the same thing on my satellite system . Instead of wasting time setting up the tripod and dish each time. I said I have better things to do after driving all day or if the weather is bad. I bit the bullet one time and bought the Vucube. I set it on the ground. Don't have to level it. I just go inside the trailer and sit in my easy chair and in 3 minutes our less I am watching TV.
Leslie
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only1Boston
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2010, 08:22:01 PM » |
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You've got a good point. The hitch is an extremely important part of the system.
However, I still intend to add shock absorbers back into the Cameo suspension system as back in 2007 or so, as part of the "customization" of our coach.
Does anyone have any information on how to locate the top shock mount on the frame? It would be super if someone with a 2007 OEM shock system could measure or take a picture for me.
Thanks for all the help,
Gary
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diandtom
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 06:38:31 PM » |
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I have 2500 Duramax CC 4X4 and the shocks go bad very fast. I have had two of these trucks and replaced all shocks within 20,000. It is amazing how much better the rig will handle. We had a 33-5V Arctic Fox before this Cameo and the old rig would really get bad towing across a 2 mile bridge to our home. This Cameo is so much better than the old rig. I have read where some have put shocks on their Cameo, but I don't think it needs them.
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only1Boston
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 10:47:27 PM » |
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There ya go! That's exactly what the fishin' buddies have been telling me, and I appreciate the verification from the Cameo community. I just had trouble believing that the shocks would go bad so fast.
I'm negotiating for new shocks for the D/A Chevy now, and have local sources for Bilstein and KYB. We'll see what pans out.
Thanks,
Gary
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NHIrish
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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 05:44:46 AM » |
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Gary....careful if you go with KYB...that was my first route as they were about $100 cheaper, but some of their online fitment charts are either wrong or misleading. In my case, I found that they do not make a front monotube for my 4x4 F-350....they sold me a fit for a 4x2...don't know if they make them for your or not...the bilsteins were an exact replacement, and are valveed for your particular application.
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only1Boston
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 09:21:12 PM » |
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Bilsteins it is. Front and back.
Your input is much appreciated.
Gary
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only1Boston
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« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2010, 10:44:25 AM » |
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Ok, I've done the shocks, played some more with the pin weight, and I've finally come around to believe that some form of air hitch/air pin box is required.
I like the looks and head system for the Trailer Saver, but it's a bit heavy for periodic removal from the pickup from what I can tell.
You-all have recommended the AirSafe, but I don't need the 25k necessary to get the HB head, and it looks complicated sitting in the bed of the truck. LLoyd told me on the phone the other day that the 20k has a Valley head.
The Trail Air hitch pin looks like an option, but may not do the job as well as the air hitch set up.
Help!!
Gary
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